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Being a Good Former Employee
I am not going anywhere. If I tried to leave my job, particularly right now, I can think of a dozen people who would hunt me down and bring me back. So don’t take this as some kind of broad hint. I just thought about the issue of being the former employee because I had a very funny dream two nights ago where I went back to visit where I had worked at and was scolded by a former boss (who I happen to like a lot) because I was late to an event where they all dressed up in Revolutionary War costumes (go figure, it’s a dream, o.k.?). Jo, I’m sorry, next time I won’t be tardy!
I’ve been a former employee a few times, and I have plenty of experience with former employees as well. The more closely entwined you were with the operation, the harder it can be to change roles.
One new complication is that in our ever-connected, always-on world, moving on can be much more difficult. In the old days, you got in your car and drove out of the parking lot, and that, for the most part, was it. (Though even in Olde Tymes, not everyone excelled at being a former employee, as I illustrate below.) But now people who were in our lives before are just an email away (just as they were when you worked there). The former place of work is often visible right there on the Web, with frequent updates about new projects and activities. An instant message shimmers on your computer screen, and in the moment, it can be hard to remember that you aren’t back in your old office, your old role, your old job.
Leaving is no longer just a physical act, a car door slamming and a wave good-bye; now it’s a commitment to shift your role to that of the former employee. You have to be intentional. It’s possible that’s really easy for you; but at least one of these tips might resonate.
(I am only tangentially addressing the complexities of moving from a last job into retirement. We had a former editor at MPOW who did it all just right and moved on with a well-thought-out plan for her new role . She continues to be my role model. But that’s a post for another day.)
So, Michael-Stephens-style, here’s my top ten list for former employees (or about-to-be-former-employees):
1. No matter how you feel, go to the going-away party, say gracious things, and squeal over the presents. You will appreciate how cleansing this is. (Actually, I adore parties and presents under any circumstances, and have many fond memories, so definitely don’t take this point as a roman a clef. But I do speak from first-hand knowledge.)
2. Make amends before you leave with anyone you were on the outs with. For rationale, see #1. This, I have had to do, and it was good.
3. Do not breeze out of there with the cop-out,
“Questions? Just call me!”
Act as if you were traveling to another planet and would be unavailable for oh, say, a few million years; make it hard for them to need to call you for information.
Document everything you do that isn’t obvious, including all your passwords and usernames, expiration dates, renewal notices, etc. Put it in a folder or binder or something else unavoidable. They may not use it (one former place didn’t open the binder for several months, until after emailing me they realized it really did have information they needed). Nevertheless, it’s the right thing to do.
4. Clean your office. Take everything that’s yours.
5. Return anything that’s theirs.
6. Be sure to say goodbye to the people who made a difference: the accountant.
The mailroom team. The UPS man who left little gifts at the holidays. The volunteer who showed up even on days like Christmas Eve and the Friday of a holiday weekend. The very young page who quietly showed up on time, shelved the books, and didn’t make a fuss.
7. Remember you don’t work there any more. (This is a particular sticking point with some former bosses.
In talking to other managers,
I have detected a pattern, rare but real, of “About Schmidt” behavior, where staff have to tiptoe around former bosses who do not quite grasp the “former” part of their new status.)
If you still live in the area, avoid “just stopping in,” at least for a while.
(And if you think you can’t, interrogate your motives.) Even if you have plenty of time on your hands, don’t offer to volunteer; it might be hard to say no to you, and your motives may be more complicated than you realize.
8. Watch your social interactions very carefully.
Think before socializing with former employees. Likewise, if you were in a significant role and you are suddenly befriended by an employee from the former library, think through what’s going on. It could just mean that a former employee wanted to socialize with you and didn’t feel free to do so before, which is a benefit of moving on, but it might not be motive-free.
Be careful about “casual” email exchanges, which might not be as casual as they appear. Above all, bells should go off if you are approached by staff asking you to offer your opinion on a workplace issue.
9. Refrain from criticizing changes that take place, even if you vehemently disagree with these changes, even if these were changes you fought off for years. That means don’t complain publicly, don’t complain to former staff, and don’t complain to the former employer. You can write that long, excoriating email full of juicy bon mots about all the mistakes made in the current regime, but delete it before you send it.
Then move on. If you find it hard to let go, remember that great line from Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore: “Don’t look back, or you’ll turn into a pillar of s–t.”
10. Every once in a while, check in to say you miss people, that the place looks great, that the new whatsis service is inspired, that you remember the good times, that you learned a lot and took what you learned to your new job or into retirement.
If you’ve been a good former employer, they will be glad to hear from you, and you’ll feel good, too.
The games that people play, reinforce whatever social rules they are trying to fulfil; Whatever dream or image they are trying to promote.
ReplyDeleteBig John the Tindink early on dramatized the game of deceit at one weasel factory I worked. In the effort to hide his backstabbing and defrauding his co-workers he would say :
“Old Bob is as Smart as a Fox.
Old Bob the Original “First Ever” National Manager. You might say he was ” the Godfather ” of the “I Lied for You ”
Good Old Boy’s Club in the environmental chamber industry. So, lets take a look at his Character and the business methods he employed.
The nature of the environmental industry;
The demands and requirements of equipment performance results in:
the product shapes the character of its masters.
The industry really started to take-off and develop in the 1960′s as a result of the space program. What was being sold were primarily custom made environmental test equipment, and every unit had it own particular personality or problems. The basic engineering was done on a drafting board, the final engineered product was produced on the production floor, in the their final test dept, with many setbacks and problems. As late as 1982 the industry was still taking up to a year over its given ship date to get (custom work) equipment operating and shipped to the customer. There was always a push to ship equipment prior to having all the -bugs-out to get that final payment.
It was then the responsibility of the field service dept. to satisfy the customer needs, and equipment requirements.
No- news-is-good- news!!!!
What this then did was produce an attitude of getting the customer off their backs. Get a body-over[service representive] over there to the customer’s shop so they will shut up!!!
ed [
Or insert a straw into the back of their skull and suck until their head caves in!!!!
Thus the introduction of the
“I–Lied–For–You–Club”.
{The Good-Old-Boys-Club}
He typified the management style there;
the rule for management was simple.
“It’s OK to lie to a little bit”
if it keeps him or us out of trouble.
It was sometimes an adventure talking to “Old Bob” you see he had this pregnant profile and when he would talk to someone he would preface the conversation with:
” Well ya, know I’ve been in this business for twenty-eight years now “
[as he would rub his hands up and down his fat belly]
“and the environmental business has been very-very-good-to-me, I’ve seen a lot of things, blah, blah. blah.”
Big John and Old Bob were a good “fit” Big John was also technically incompetent, lazy, and a drunk, and his main snitch(but a “fun” guy to be around). Observing Big John’s activities it was not surprise that he would sell anyone down the river. He was always running behind everyone’s back.
ed [perhaps the ease of the company, “they couldn’t figure out why they hired him in the first place!”
a bad organizational fit there!
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Fred Plont
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Thermotron field service l – Lonely Sarcastic Guy-
working with a Dummy 2- fred Plont— career criminal
yes
get your training at thermotron– Fred Plont– the good – old – Boy–
Yes and Roger Cannady and associates
let Fred Plont do what ever he wanted — and his training with Ed Flowers-in colorado – was a continuation of the training he got with Thomas bannach and mitch herr and John dane– at All temp engineering and ENSECO — it’s no — wonder his attituded was
Gee — Isn’t every one a liar and a thief? (embezzler)
when i worked at thermotron
interesting thing about holland michigan and thermotron, is that the
managers i dealt with all Bragg with liers and deceivers..they are..
when ROn Wiley was the thermotron west coast manager, dispatcher, “good old boy”
was working at Litton Ind and just set up an test lab for them in
Oregon i hired and trained the new staff and when
Ron Wiley sent up 3
thermotron field service technicians, all 3 combined barley made up one complete person..
But they have to get their training somewhere.. one customer at time…
Then
Ron Wiley dispatehed a unskilled and un qualified employee from
washington state to perform the start up on an vibration shaker..
his only training at thermotron was they told him it was “roundand blue ” and it fit under the chamber..
after a week of trying to get it to work.. he concluded that the logic moduel was bad..
40 hours for that..
But he did know where the “Hidden Buttons” were on the chamber temperature controller..
the 3 other field service engineers Ron Wiley dispatched didn’t have a clue..
when i asked if he could do a operational performance over view for the 13 men i had hired in the test lab ,
Ron wiley and Dave waterfield said thermotron no longer does that for customers..
Ron Wiley asked
if i remembered Berry Wright who was a Tom Bannach replacement
.. and
he quit thermotron when dave waterfield gave him a Dan O’keefe review..
policy .
. find some thing they did wrong and make a big deal about it..
so u don’t have to give then a raise.
. he quit as the West Coast
Manager,
and
Fred Plont had a lot of backstabbing words to say
about that … but as i said to fred Plont.. “what’sit to u ?”
and
freds reply was ” Well he won’t be able to find a better job where u
don’t have to work very hard”
as fred’s claim to fame is being a lazy
lying 2 faced back stabber and embezzler.. u can see why he is a long
ter m
Thermotron employee..
Heck.. Bob Wiley hired him twice!!!
any way… because Holland Michigan is know as the West Coast Hipocroits..
and Thermotron is a great place to see all the different types of liars, thieves and embezzlers,
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